DISQUS

The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs: Why Dell will not bounce back

  • Nobody · 1 year ago
    Fake Steve, you've forgotten one important factor in Dell's rise and bust: laptops.

    Dell could do the whole Japanese-style Just-In-Time inventory management when every box they built was was built-to-order. You want a machine? Order by mail, phone, or now online, and customize it exactly however you want it. Once your order is completed, THEN someone goes through and picks out the processor, the hard disk, the USB ports, the speakers, the graphics card, the memory, etc that you wanted on your custom rig. He puts snaps, plugs, or screws everything into place, and then ships it to you. No hassle, right?

    Except, now, everything is laptops. You can't just put together normal-sized parts, because everything needs to be tiny. You have no room for screws in a case less than an inch thick, so you have to solder it in. And you can't just solder shit Just-In-Time, you have to give it some time to cool. You have to test the connections. You have to cram all that customizability into a tiny little notebook-sized square of plastic, and of course that means have every possible configuration of laptop on hand at all times. If you're smart (which you are), you only have a couple of possibilities. Let them choose among 3 or so processors, two hard disks, and a couple choices for memory. Everything is pre-configured according to the model.

    If you're stupid, you try to sell laptops the way you sell desktops, like Michael Dell, and fail miserably.
  • Sean · 1 year ago
    All the above mentioned is true and I'll add one other thing.

    Frigtards that use PC's don't need Moore's Law mandated upgrades to browse Facebook and reply to emails. In fact with storage moving into the clouds they don't need terabytes on the desktop.

    Who knew.
  • Larry · 1 year ago
    Forget Picasso, Steve is Willy Wonka!!
  • John Gordon · 1 year ago
    Very well done -- especially since you have to stay in character!

    Dell was a parasite on IBM and Compaq technical innovation. They focused on process innovation.

    Nothing wrong with that! It's an excellent strategy -- as long as you understand what you're doing.

    It's very bad form for a parasite to kill its host however. Dell killed the host, and it can't find a new host. (Apple's hardware innovation is too closely tied to the OS to parasitize without access to the OS.

    Dell's other mistake, in addition to failing to understand the duties of a good parasite, was that they flushed their innovators. They ought to have come up with a way to keep fifty or so very smart people happy tinkering in labs, so that when they needed to transition to invention and design innovation they had a core group of loyal innovators to build on.

    Instead Dell adopted an aggressive downsizing strategy that maximized returns to process managers, and ignored innovators. Good in the short term, but risky. They could have afforded an insurance policy.

    Two big mistakes. I'm not so convinced they can't recover, but it is an uphill battle now.
  • DoonRothmani · 1 year ago
    This analysis of a theoretical Dell "comeback" vs. the Apple comeback is spot on.

    not at all funny though.
  • DoonRothmani · 1 year ago
    btw, I am talking about fsj's analysis, not yours. Your's is good too, John.

    Not funny either, though.
  • Scamateur · 1 year ago
    Sheer brilliance - Bravo, FSJ!
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    A bit of revisionist history, FSJ.

    Apple didn't go to OSX because it was visionary, it went with it because that's what RSJ was working on before he came back to Apple, and selling NeXT to Apple was a huge mega payday for RSJ.

    Apple will become a Windows machine, just give it time- I predict shortly after Jobs is no longer running Apple (I'd say sooner, but I seriously doubt RSJ will ever willingly let Apple stop using NeXT, especially since the people on Apples board came over from NeXT as well).. As Apple has proven with the Leoptard disaster, they can't program their way out of a wet paper bag.

    And likewise, NeXT -ALSO- used the same inventory method as Dell does, called "just in time" (JIT), where you acquire the parts when you need them.

    Let's face facts here: Apple isn't a software company. They are a hardware company which dabbles (and poorly at that) in software by simple necessity. Microsoft, on the other hand, is a software company (which IMO should dabble more in hardware, since they've done very well during past projects).

    And beyond all that, you miss out on what is Dell's TRUE genius. No, it's not what you cited. It's not direct marketting (although that is a positive for them), and it's not their just in time inventorying (also a positive). Their real genius is spending hardly any money on research and development. Dell uses mostly reference designs and standard parts.

    Unlike Lenovo, Dell doesn't use substandard parts inside highly customized machines. That's the reason IBM/Lenovo machines need twenty custom craplications just to get the hardware working right. And if you have to rely on IBM's programmers... you've already failed. It's a lot like Apple software in that respect.

    Yeah, Apple does good with their hardware. Just don't fool yourself into thinking anyone except hardcore Apple zealots care about (or for) Apple software. Especially seeing how OSX is a scam which charges $150 for a point release service pack, the same kind MS releases for free. And on top of that, Apple can't even admit to all the problems with their OS: good luck with corporate clients with that attitude.
  • Mr. E · 1 year ago
    What a douche bag!

    Let's see: iLife is not well written software? Let's compare iMovie to Movie Maker. Wait, there is no comparison. Microsoft's half assed attempt at writing software is *always* laughable. Notepad? Wordpad? the ``applications'' included with the OS(Works anyone?) are paltry at best.

    Make no mistake, the ``point'' releases you quip about are indeed *full* OS revisions. Apple releases patches for free when patches are required.

    I've not even mentioned the pro apps Apple has: Finalcut, Aperture, Logic, Shake. When's the last time M$ cruft (I'm not talking just about the OS) in a feature length film? (I'm talking utside of the redmond campus wiseguy)
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    Talk about a true visionary:

    Just don't fool yourself into thinking anyone except hardcore Apple zealots care about (or for) Apple software.
  • VoR · 1 year ago
    "Microsoft's half assed attempt at writing software is *always* laughable. Notepad? Wordpad?"

    We don't care. Then again, there's a massive amount of 3rd party software for Windows, unlike OSX. We don't have to rely on what Microsoft puts in the box, because unlike Apple, Microsoft treats developers well.
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    I think it's hilarious that the worst he can do is criticize Notepad or Wordpad. No one besides a Lunix d00d gives a shitabout what text editor they are using.
  • DJ · 1 year ago
    "Leoptard"? Whew, for a second there I almost took you seriously.
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    it is a tad overrated dont yo think darling?
  • LJ · 1 year ago
    I am a 15+ year PC tech. I recently got an Apple iMac and can tell you it is the BEST computer and operating system on the planet. MicroTard Vista is crap.

    Apple releases several software updates for FREE. It would be nice MicroTard boy if you knew what you were talking about. How can you even compare Windows to OSX? On Windows you have how many thousands of viruses, trojans, spyware, and crapware infecting it? Compare that to ZIP for Mac.
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    On Windows you have how many thousands of viruses, trojans, spyware, and crapware infecting it?

    How many do I have? Zero.

    But no wonder you switched to OSX- if I spent 15 years on a job and still sucked at it... I'd be looking to switch too.

    It's not Microsoft's fault you suck.
  • Dithers · 1 year ago
    JSG, you are the worst kind of moron - the completely unaware kind.

    If you are trying to be funny a la 'Zune Tang' at MDN, you need to quit now before you make yourself look even more of a zunetard than you already have.
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    Wow, your witty reply was only 12 days too late for anyone to care about it.

    You should spend less time reading through my post history, and more time learning about this tech stuff so you can begin forming well thought out opinions, rather than zealotry driven crap.
  • JK · 1 year ago
    Although I can see you getting confused between Nabokov and Camus, how can you mix up the Allman Brothers and Dylan? "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" is straight out of Subterranean Homesick Blues. Come on El Jobso - I would expect better!
  • JJ · 1 year ago
    It was obvious he did it on purpose =)
  • DoonRothmani · 1 year ago
    well then, to what purpose?
  • Beavis · 1 year ago
    CORRECTARDS.
  • LKM · 1 year ago
    And Latin isn't French. By now it should be obvious that these errors are part of the joke.
  • waybacmac · 1 year ago
    Hah! You've been FSJ-rolled!
  • JacktheMac · 1 year ago
    No, JK is right: FSJ's misattribution of cultural references is consistently funny, but it falls down here. The real Steve Jobs would never confuse Dylan with the Allman Brothers. Jobs worships Dylan (didn't he bankroll the Scorsese movie ?). And anyone remember Steve and Joan ?
  • JSG · 1 year ago
    Did you ever watch American Psycho? It's a lot like that: he spent all kinds of time complaining about how phony and superfiscial people were, but kept getting his facts wrong (and didn't even care enough to know whether he was right or not).

    In a way, FSJ isn't a parody of RSJ, he's a parody of what Apple faithful believe about FSJ, and about how phony and superfiscial THEY are. FSJ is just like them, in many ways.
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  • JSG · 1 year ago
    Correction:

    I meant to say FSJ is a parody of what Apple faithful believe about RSJ (not FSJ, as I mistakenly wrote).
  • Edvard · 1 year ago
    Go watch Caddyshack: "In the immortal words of Jean-Paul Sartre, au revoir, gopher." This is Lyons' Platonic ideal of teh funny.
  • Mo · 1 year ago
    The CNET article is likely based upon an article in last week's Economist:

    http://www.economist.com/people/displaystory.cf...
  • charles cooper · 1 year ago
    actually, "mo," it's based on an earlier cnet article

    http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9939821-7.html...

    send my regards to curly & shemp
  • Marcos El Malo · 1 year ago
    Coop, I can't believe how easy FSJ went on you, considering the general level of bloviating hackery in evidence on your blog. I'm thinking maybe FSJ was channeling Dan Lyons, also a well known hack in the J biz.

    A little over a week ago you were criticizing FSJ's good buddy Larry for all the bacon he brought home and put on his family (as they say in Oklahoma). You had the numbers there to prove your point: Oracle's stock price at two year intervals. However, what you forgot was to figure in the stock splits, and this was pointed out in the comments. Did you apologize for the goof? No, you ranted about the "trolls" attacking you and claimed your point still stands, even after your evidence was demolished.

    Did you ever wonder why "Nobody asks you"? It's because you're full of shit, your insights are unoriginal and facile, and you're too dumb to accept correction, i.e., you're unteachable.

    Take a cue from the aforementioned Dan Lyons. Dan was a hack journalist, but he was smart enough to realize this, so he made a career change and became a satirist. Turns out he is one of the best satirists on the planet. Also, I imagine he is much happier now, since he is using a talent at which he excels and not just churning out crap for a paycheck. If you were teachable, Coop, you'd take this lesson to heart and look into a career bagging groceries.

    PS: FSJ, I understand that you know Dan Lyons slightly. Next time you cross his path, urge him to branch out into novels. I could see him as a 21st Century Tom Wolfe, only better.
  • woz · 1 year ago
    Why do you have a picture of Sean Hannity at the top of this post?
  • Archie_Medes · 1 year ago
    Interchangeable parts, they both full of it.
  • SSteve · 1 year ago
    My favorite genre of FSJ article: brilliant analysis with a few hilarious bread crumbs for the correctards. (I'm sneering at you, JK. As Daffy Duck said, "What a maroon".)
  • JacktheMac · 1 year ago
    Don't sneer at JK, he's right - see above.
  • Archie_Medes · 1 year ago
    Oh my God! That was spot on, fire for effect! I wonder if those chuckleheads as PissStar are reading it.
  • p · 1 year ago
    Why is getting facts wrong (even intentionally) "hilarious bread crumbs"?
  • LKM · 1 year ago
    Not sure about the bread crumbs, but the "hilarious" part is that the wrong facts are part of Fake Steve's portrayal of himself; a person who is far too confident in his own knowledge and doesn't actually know all that much.
  • Ghost of Copland · 1 year ago
    LKM summed it up, but you know, if you have to define a sense of humor, you obviously don't have one.
  • acap. · 1 year ago
    Pablo Picasso is blue, like my jeans.
  • lastangelman · 1 year ago
    I.)Another classic post for the greatest hits collection

    II.)How Dell could turnaround and get on top.
    a)Start looking for an all around visionary, an artist, not a bullshit artist, an artiste who will front and lead company.
    b)Wean itself from Microsoft or go cold turkey. Develop its own OS based on BSD or Open Solaris geared towards Dell hardware equipment and configurations. Use and promote freetard software, but develop a top-notch software team within.
    c)Hire someone who knows a lot about design. Preferably Italian, Swiss or British. Fuck the French, Germans, Scandinavians and Greeks. Maybe a Japanese.
    d)Don't portray yourselves in marketing as follower of trend or a leader in field. Portray your company and yourself as an iconoclast.
    e)Form partnerships. Screw them and embrace them often. Always be the one who has hand in relationship.
    f)Be secretive.To the point of paranoid. Announce products only when they're shipping out the door.
    g)Be vindictive.
    h)Don't mollycoddle your employees. Make them earn your love.
    i)Hire some hack from Fortune to impersonate your iconoclast in a fake blog.

    III.)You're right, Dell is Gateway right now. If it doesn't begin to turnaround in next six quarters, it's time to go looking for a buyer.

    IV.)Happy Mother's Day!
  • foo · 1 year ago
    lastangelman, Apple has the book with Braun products. It is good for another decade of Apple products that look like from Braun. Dell doesn't even know who Braun is/was.
  • Doctor Memory · 1 year ago
    Let's not forget the other temporary reason for Dell's ascendence in the 1990s and early 2000s: a dubiously-legal sweetheart deal with Intel that got Dell the latest Pentium-4 CPUs faster and cheaper than anyone else in the industry including IBM and HP. The combination of the end of that deal with the (itself temporary, but whatever) performance ascendency of AMD's Opteron parts meant that Dell suddenly had to compete at the same price-points as everyone else in the business, and suddenly the value proposition of a company that boasted of spending less than 1% of their budget on R&D seemed... a little less clear.

    And let's also not forget the crowning irony of Dell's position at the top of the direct sales heap: the original version of the dell.com store website was written in... WebObjects. And continued to be for much longer than anyone at Dell was ever willing to admit in public, despite massive infusions of cash and manpower from Microsoft to convert them over to ASP.
  • Mmmm, Apollo · 1 year ago
    Great Post. Clarificationo though: Dell was never Osborne, DEC, or Apollo in the innovative sense. Those companies were exceptionally innovative but run exceptionally poorly.

    Dell is Gateway.
  • Partners in Grime · 1 year ago
    Dell is headed for the gate.
  • Steve Cohen · 1 year ago
    neato.
  • AAPL · 1 year ago
    The scary part about this is that you're right. And once you're gone, Steve, then what? I hope to god you're training someone to fill your shoes, or we're all in for a surprise.
  • howardlindzon · 1 year ago
    thanks goodness I m short Dell and dont rely on media, just stock price for my decisions....and of course YOU
  • Yash · 1 year ago
    Haha this was one good article Jobso... very very true - the way you distinguished having a temporary advantage and having a sustainable one was great :P
  • user · 1 year ago
    niiiiiice
  • Goatberg · 1 year ago
    (Present time)

    Who is Dell ! ?

    (A decade after)

    Who was Dell ! ?
  • augustus · 1 year ago
    Jobs is also the big problem for Apple. What happens after Jobs?

    But for those of us who say Apple for what it was in 1997, won't be too worried. He's done a great job for us.

    I knew in the late 90's when Apple was running those crazy "Think Different" Ads that Jobs was special.

    Agree with your article. Never liked Dell and don't expect them to rebound.
  • SamG · 1 year ago
    this articles, as many others, is spot on, great analysis that even Goatberg cannot come up with :)

    What killed DELL are unportable laptops. They suffered from too many design problems, crappy plastic, laptop obesity and caused serious muscle strain to their owners. Have you ever ran with that thing from gate to gate at the airport.? Sell your Bowflex, here comes the DELL laptop workout. Absolutely horrendous.

    Now, DELL started copying SONY (another crappy laptop) and Mac (by design) but it is too late. We have moved on.
  • steveballmer · 1 year ago
    Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
    Dan, stick to writing retarded articles about how bloggs are evil!
  • C. Enrique Ortiz · 1 year ago
    Very accurate indeed. Kid you not. Dell is not a visionary company, and doesn't invest on true R&D.

    And it was a matter of time before they got to where they are now; stuck and the in the crapper.

    Yes, innovation, in product and design, and investment on R&D, is what sets companies apart...

    ...and Dell is going to get acquired (or merge with some other company)...

    ...maybe acquired by a Chinese company....

    ~5 years...

    ceo
  • SDC · 1 year ago
    The only downside is its taking so long for Dell to die. It's like the English Patient girlfriend...
  • Cracker Kevin · 1 year ago
    Bwa-ha. Replay a scene from 5 years ago:

    "Jesus! You have ALL your money in Dell stock? You should diversify a bit..."

    "Screw you! Brokers and financial advisors keep telling me that, they're all a bunch of idiots!"
  • Partners in Grime · 1 year ago
    Dell will bounce all right ... like a rubber check.
  • Sparky · 1 year ago
    Boom!!!
  • Doug · 1 year ago
    I'm going to go out on a limb here, iDavid: much of your purchase decisions is based on price, and that you won't work for $.75/hour. Why won't YOU do your pathetic part to prop up the country?
  • godsdog · 1 year ago
    Roboy

    Anytime I hear a story like this I get a feeling of deja vu. 10 years ago -- Dell could do no wrong. Apple was a turd in the punchbowl back then. How times change.

    Dell made some good decisions back then. They did the Dell website -- the easiest direct buy option out there on the internet. They also partnered with the large corps and provided enterprise solutions the way IBM (another "could do no wrong" company) did in the 70's and Compaq did in the early 90's. In the early 2000's you could have Dell provide your imaged servers and workstations and even do a good chunk of your tech support.

    Then - the same thing happened to Dell that happens to so many companies -- they started focusing on short term returns, let the finance dweebs make too many decisions -- and shot themselves in the (insert body part here). No innovation. Cutting tech support to all part timers with resultant huge turnover and massive customer discontent. Clunky designs. And then Vista. Vista effectively stalled the corporate upgrade cycle that is so important to Dell. Companies are holding off. Why stick your (insert body part) into a blender if you can wait a while for MS to get their stuff together?

    Good analysis and I agree that Dell will have a hard time recovering. They will probably have to merge -- when the corporate VP level brain-trusts realize they are in trouble, they think merger so that they can transfer any resulting value left in the company into their pockets Just wait and see.

    Back to my original point -- Apple is the current darling. Companies can take and hold the initiative for a while and hold it - especially if they are built around a strong leader. If conditions change and the leader does not adapt -- they're screwed. If the leader leaves and they have no succession plan -- they're screwed. If the leader gets taken out by an "accident" (for you conspiracy types) -- they're screwed. If the finance geeks get too much influence and start the down the "cost containment" spiral -- they're screwed...

    Apple is on top now. How long they will remain there -- that is the 10,000 dollar question.

    (Sorry for the gloomy post. I forgot my lithium)
  • Santa Dog '06 · 1 year ago
    Sorry I'm late with my deliveries, nasty business with DHS and unintended rest stop at Gitmo ... one Lithium Brick ...here ya' go!

    Bing!Bing!Bing!
    Bong!Bong!Bong!
  • nina_aoki · 1 year ago
    lmao!

    But couldn't you have done this in the Poetry Corner?

    "sometimes i feel like pablo picasso"?
  • Stewart's Beard Of Satan · 1 year ago
    Picasso was an asshole! Wouldn't we all like to be an asshole, too?
  • erikschmidt · 1 year ago
    I'd argue that while designing better products is the most important thing Dell can do to retain forward momentum, there is something else Apple has done that Dell will have a tough time replicating.

    While Dell created one distribution platform when it bypassed wholesalers and retailers, Apple was forced to create several distribution platforms. First it went direct via the Apple retail stores and Apple online store. Then it built another channel in the form of iTunes, which has been successfully leveraged to deliver far more than music. Now Apple is moving aggressively into distribution via its iPhone platform. If Apple's App Store is successful, Apple will have succeeded in going around the backs of software wholesalers and retailers as well as the mobile carriers.

    Apple now sells widgets, multimedia content, and software through a variety of channels, all of which bypass third parties completely and are mutually reinforcing.

    Dell sells widgets direct, but depends on another company for the software half of the widget. Despite all of the deserved hoopla about Apple's design prowess, that's only half of Apple's innovation.
  • JavaOne virus · 1 year ago
    Your end has come, step-monkeys. Soon, you will all be infected. There is no escape. I love wetware.
  • Sam Liu · 1 year ago
    Holy frick this is brilliant.

    As Donald Trump would put it: "People pay 100 million dollars for my building not because I built it, but because its a good building. People pay far less for someone else's because their building isn't as good a building."

    Better Product > Customer Wrangling. Pure and simple. Why? Cause customers aren't all dumb folk.
  • Fake Apple Employee · 1 year ago
    I think Mike Dell ought to shut the company down and give the money back to the shareholders.

    It's only fair.
  • Mouth of Dell · 1 year ago
    I think Steve ought to plead gulity to the SEC, the FTC and the shareholders and report to the Federal Correction Institute in Herlong, tout suite.



    It's only fair.
  • iDavid · 1 year ago
    @Doug.
    No, much of my purchase decisions aren't based on price. If that was the determination I'd be shopping at Walmart and using a Dell or a Gateway. As I don't do either, where does that leave us now? I buy Apple hardware Mr. Howser, so I guess I'm not shopping at Target either.
  • peter · 1 year ago
    good.
  • lastangelman · 1 year ago
    How many years before Apple ditches OS X for a new operating system? Or is Apple secretly developing a "cloud" device that enables users to access Apple cloud and cloud partner services?
    (Don't send Moshe - imitation cringely told me, hit him hit him - oh, hi Moshe, please don't, not the face - OOOOMPH !!!!

    (weakly) thank you ... I think ... uuuuhhhh!)

    Stop punching me now ... pant ... gasp ... Krazit ... Tom Krazit ... go ... beat ... him ... passes out
  • Ced · 1 year ago
    Any advantage is temporary, Steve.
  • Ryan · 1 year ago
    If Dell can wait out this Vista fiasco, they'll be fine.

    I still maintain the opinion that their product support, including the online side of things, is toward the top as far as PC manufacturers go. And they did just come out with the 'One' that was critically well received, even from Goatberg, who said it's hardware was as good or better than iMac's.

    Vista is already looking somewhat better thanks to SP1, and can only improve from here on it with additional updates. That included with a couple more product updates like the 'One' (they're due for an overhaul on the notebook side of things) and Dell will be fine.
  • crazyhorse · 1 year ago
    STEVEO,
    cnet, that is so 20th century.
  • BOAN · 1 year ago
    BRILLIANT EL JOBSO, JUST BRILLIANT!
  • dfs · 1 year ago
    Dear Steve: Everything you say about Apple and about yourself in this piece is dead-on 100% accurate. Yes, you're right, when you get down to the real nitty-grit Apple is a one-man show, isn't it? And Dell (and pretty much everybody else) doesn't have anybody remotely like you. You're on an adventure to the stars and your taking everybody with you, your employees, your stockholders, all Mac, iPod and iPhone users everywhere. But let me dare to say those two horrible little words, "pancreatic cancer." You dig? We're all on this starship, it's got a truly great captain. But the problem is that when you start looking around the ship there really isn't -- er -- anybody else around who seems to know how to operate the damn thing, and that's gotta make the crew and the passengers a little nervous. As nice as the idea of Apple being one genius' artistic studio may be, it would be even nicer if we could all be sure that Apple was a larger and more enduring institution and Force For Good than any one guy. The romantic in me would like to think of the unimaginably groovy Macs they'll have the twenty-third century. The AAPL shareholder in me would like to think of the value of my shares not going right down the toilet if suddenly you weren't around any more, which is very assuredly what would happen. So, as I see it, the basic problem is this: how does Apple take some of your genius, or, if that''s impossible, your creativity, good taste and business smarts and institutionalize them?
  • Pah lang · 1 year ago
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  • Pah lang · 1 year ago
    Gah.. Okay, try this one instead:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuS7Pes2XMU
  • Beefy · 1 year ago
    "You don't need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows, as the Allman Brothers once sang."

    Umm, the allman brothers never sang that song, its a Bob Dylan song called Subterranean Homesick Blues
  • dfs · 1 year ago
    China and India a threat? Gimme a break. The Chinese and Indians are great at manufacturing stuff somebody else invents and designs. When it comes to creativity and innovation, they've got about zero to show.
  • Joe Kelley · 1 year ago
    Thank you Steve really needed to read something like this. Have had dozens of issues with DELL CUSTOMER SERVICE and CUSTOMER CARE. Unbelievably poor customer service, shove things down consumers throats and indicates we should swallow. It's like you wrote, "putting the squeeze on," that's exactly the experience I've had with DELL these past six years, a laptop that doesn't work once you add a security suite such as NORTON, etc. - it's been bad, really really bad, bad enough to file a claim with FTC which for me is unbelievable for I'm not a practicing crank. Thanks Steve.

    Joe K
  • Bob Morris · 1 year ago
    Michael Dell should be fired for destroying the company he founded. When I worked for Dell, no one I knew supported Michael, we all still think he's just a cost cutter with white teeth. This is just an embarassment, and it's time the board took action and fired him. Get rid of him before it's too late!!!
  • HP Laptop Parts · 9 months ago
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  • neoviky · 1 year ago
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  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    FSJ You are right that Dell won't bounce back but you are wrong about the reason. It has nothing to do with MS, Apple or whatever but more because of another reason.... which sooner than later will bite apple in its ass.... its called boredom. The world is bored with American products built around figidty shit. Sure Apple is doing okay in the states but it has not really gotten traction in the rest of the world´. As a matter of fact lenovo's global growth figures just shows that consumers want Chinese-to-go . Apple is doing well in the states because cults generally do well in the land of big thighs... Wacko, Jim Jones, Scientology , Southern Baptism, Apple-ology . All of them thrive amongst the easily swayed.

    The world is going east.... I wonder when the USA will actually come to terms with the fact that they are being out branded by China and the EU`?
  • artMonster · 1 year ago
    Serefina, El Jobso went east a long time ago, didn't you notice?
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    Not the brand.... Why do you think Motorola failed globally...? Their products were no worse than Nokia or SonyEricsson... European,Chinese and Indian people have tough time swallowing American Bravura these days. maybey a couple of years back when US enginering and design was better but now there is a clear advantage to the EU, CHINA and INDIA.
  • Doctor Memory · 1 year ago
    Where, precisely, do you think Apple computers are made?
  • MikieV · 1 year ago
    "Sure Apple is doing okay in the states but it has not really gotten traction in the rest of the world"

    HAhahahahha..

    "Traction" as in all the unlocked phones being sold in markets Apple hasn't been able to establish marketing agreements -yet-...?

    "Traction" as in all the countries which have people complaining that a version of the iTunes store isn't available -yet-...?

    Cults can do well everywhere.

    Setting-up the infrastructure which allows the kind of user experience needed to perpetuate a cult is what takes time.
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    The lady doth protest too much. I sense a serious amount of nervousness. Apple works in the STATES. It floats in the rest of the world
  • BobbyW · 1 year ago
    " land of big thighs... "

    Shows you're as ignorant and close-minded as you like to think all Americans are. Four words show your intellectual immaturity and invalidate the rest of your rather uninteresting observations.
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    Stop being so sensitive. if FSJ can be cynical then I can be a ficticious witch. Not all Americans have big thighs. Happy? Now go and cry on your pillow
  • iDavid · 1 year ago
    Outbranded? LOL.
    China is getting a graduate course in branding from the US companies that are outsourcing everything not bolted down to both India and China. It is being done on-shore here in the US and offshore by hordes of low cost workers and "knowledge workers". You are seeing the result in a company like Dell, which is just a shell of a company now. There is NO IP there is there? Just a name. It is ok for Michael Dell other than the hit to his ego, for from a bottom line perspective, he an his relatives will never have to work again anyway. For his employees? They are circling around the event horizon. Anything and everything they have is now in China. All their design, manufacturing, IT, engineering work. This is being played out ALL over Silicon Valley. The VPs and above are strip mining their own companies. In 5-10 years there will be very few people left who are American employees doing any meaningful work. All in the name of chasing the lowest labor cost. At that point you've turned your company into a name only. You have nothing left. You can thank Neutron Jack Welch and Accenture for this state of affairs, as this country hands over all its know how to India and China and somehow doesn't care that they are teaching their competitors exactly how to destroy them. Willingly. And with great abandon. Just pathetic and depressing.
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    yes but there are actually a serious influx of worthwhile chinese and european brands on the market these days which have brand value and product substance.
  • playitcool · 1 year ago
    now with more lead poisoning™!
  • Serefina Pekkela · 1 year ago
    Only the products they make for the American Brands
  • playitcool · 1 year ago
    Show me the virgins! wooooooohooooo