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but anyway, yeah. all we buddhists know — dalai lama? great when he's doing the lecture circuit or bestowing empowerments or making time to visit asshat dilettantes like richard geer and even dubya, but the moment he wants something, best to be otherwise engaged pretty durn quick.
the funny thing is — the world recognizes him as both the spiritual and political leader of the exiled tibetans, and those in exile from tibet will nod to that so they get some focus, as he is good at keeping the cause in the spotlight and grabbing the photo ops, but in truth, it's only the gulapa sect of the vajryana tibetan buddhists who promote this. and that's because they promoted the first big dalai lama (third leader in the galupa sect) as both a spiritual and political leader as it turned out to be a bit of an advantageous power grab back in the 16th century, because he was already influencing/teaching a mongolian prince, altan khan (which is where, some might say, a lot of the trouble started — china claims authority as the prince they were beholden to for protection was mongolian, and, therefore, one of them, tibet says, no, he became protector of tibet for tibetans, and the disagreement just goes on for over half an eon from there, along with other complications). the other sects of tibetan vajryana, like the nyigmas, the sakyas, the what-have-ya's ... well, it's hard to say what they feel about him. but for now, they let him be both the show boat and also take the first arrows.
i will say — he's a good guy. bit of a lovable cherub at times. loves the compassion thing. likes talking about quantum physical from a pop-spirituality point of view, etc. can be good at parties. stands by non-violence, no matter what. can't argue with that. it's his thing, what he does best. but yeah, he must get neurotic about all this late at night. sorry 'bout the calls, man. but imagine what the rest of us buddhists have to put up with the other 365 days of the year.
Where is the native Indian in American?
Please learn more about history. You are too simple, sometimes naive.
Of course I'm keenly aware of the misdemeanors perpetrated by the US on behalf of its cynical and corrupt government, and I've protested them loudly for decades. I'm friggin Noam Chomsky, have you heard of me? Apparently not.
You are a prestigious scholar and that’s exactly why we are shocked by your comments in this thread. Personally I respect you very much since I was born in a culture which respects the teachers and the elders. But academically, I have two concerns about your opinions.
1. How to define FASCIST?
How could you easily accuse a country as FASCIST recklessly? It is good to think or hypothesize boldly, but it is definitely more important to reason, to prove it with substantial evidence.
China’s ascension to a global superpower is no longer a forecast. In less than twenty years, China has experienced the same degree of industrialization and social transformation as Europe did in two hundred years. I admit that China’s fragility is also directly related to its extraordinary rise, and, that is the reason why we are studying in US. But at least, we are growing smoothly and steadily in the right track after two hundred years of war, invasion, holocaust, disease, death... People are living happily and peacefully now. If you ever experienced, or if you had the sanity to imagine the painful history, you would appreciate and cherish this economic boom and peaceful home.
My sense is that you should have a better chance to understand how to define fascism since you are Jewish and you know better about your own people’s history. No government, or broadly, nothing is perfect. But most Chinese citizen would not understand your arrogant comments to define China as FACIST. Culturally, you are not morally above anyone, not a single one. To be hones, I doubt if you ever know anything about the current China. By the way, this FACIST country once saved thousands of Jewish during WWII, most of them have returned to Israel and some of them are the elites of this country now.
2. Anarcy
Anarchy? Without the מְדִינַת יִשְרָאֵל, it would be highly possible that what had happened to Jewish during WWII would happen again, even though you could control the economy and media in US.
I appreciate very much for your kind attention in this topic. I would like to discuss with you further about IT later on if it would be possible to you. I believe that the more we share, the more we have.
First, I'm sorry; I wrote in haste. I should not have said China is "fascist" as that's technically incorrect. I should have said "repressive," "tyrannical," and "implacably hostile to the human spirit." I think we can agree those terms are much less offensive than "fascist" so please accept my apologies.
Second, I do not share your antipathy to "anarchy" or rather, your implied preference for the centralized State. Your implication that lack of governance would lead to genocide neglects the plain fact that most (but admittedly not all) of the genocides of the last hundred years were meticulously planned and executed by sovereign states.
Two last things: first, my heritage and religious beliefs are not germane to this discussion. And second, it's unnecessary to write "Midnat Yisra'el" in Hebrew if you're not going to call China "Zhongguo" or "中國" ("中国"). Let's not show off.
You are the Father of generative grammar and modern linguistics and I appreciate your amazing academic achievements. It is definitely feasible for you to chop and break down the word FASCIST into letters A, S, I, T, S, F, C, mix them and then rearrange them into another FASCIST as you defined as "repressive," "tyrannical," and "implacably hostile to the human spirit." Essentially, it is kind of a game.
I defend your right to free speech, but I can not agree with your description of China in this way although I hold the position that “I have sworn . . . eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man” (Thomas Jefferson).
But please keep two things in mind:
First of all, the current Political Ecosystem in China is not “Tyrannical”. Basically, there are two main forces, reformism (liberalism) and conservatism. Even within each force, not a single person has the absolute power to dictate the fate of this country. So, your conclusion is way from correct, (except that you break down the word TYRANNICAL into letters again, mix them and craft another new TYRANNICAL.)
Secondly, the western value system is never universal, not to mention permanent. It may be the best way to realize the maximal interest for the western. Each country has its own unique background. We have existed in this planet for more than 5000 years. We need to learn from other countries and peoples, but we definitely know how to choose the best way for ourselves. (SKIP 10 thousand words…)
2. ANACHY
I agree with you that many of the genocides of the last hundred years were meticulously planned and executed by sovereign states. But I do not think it is because the SOVEREIGH STATE itself, rather, it is the human nature and/or some other environment factors that caused them. Or in other words, without SOVEREIGH STATE, you might even expect more cruel genocides than we already had. Or logically, SOVEREIGH STATE is neither sufficient nor necessary to genocides, though it did play an important role in the whole tragedy. So I highly doubt your idea that eradicating SOVERGIGH STATE would automatically stop genocides. If things could be so simple, thanks GOD!!!
Further more, I can show you how the reasoning underpinning your conclusion is flawed. If we look back to a little bit more extended period, say during the 3000 years of China history: most major wars or holocausts happened between two dynasty replacements, or exactly in the state of ANACHY.
Dear Mr. Chomsky, I am sorry I have to pause here to dissect the mice to obtain the neurons and figure out how the animals think. I am sorry for my ungentlemanly debate behavior. But I will try to complete my first point as soon as I finish my experiment.
I am always confused, the neurons and the glia cells can co-exist in the brain so elegantly, harmoniously, and beautifully, why cannot humans, I mean as perfectly as neuron-glials? That’s really beyond me.
It is interesting to see you here. I was a student
of linguistics and had great respect for your
academic as well as political writings. But, I am
very disappointed to see such a sharp mind
as stereotyped and blind to reality as anyone
else on the street in a Western country.
I really do not understand the "moral high
grounds" (in the words of our Speaker of the
House) Westerners believe they have over
other parts of the world. Reducing the
economic, religious, geographic, developmental,
ethnic, cultural...differences in the world to just
"democracy" vs "dictatorship", or "human rights"
vs "repression" is simple and naive, and mis-
leading/self-deceptive. I see this brainwashing
happening right before my eyes. My son, who is
studying in a US middle school, understands
modern history as "Road to Democracy". How
about industralization, how about de-conolization,
how about, like what the Chinese are doing,
revitalization of ancient cultures? These are no
less important than democracy, which, if we
trace back, was the rule of game invented by the
Greeks for decision making and power sharing.
Why should all the peoples in all the world follow
this rule of the game by the Greeks? Why can't
another culture believe in the country being run
like a family, where the head of the country is
empowered by what he is, not how he is put in
that position? Of course, in your terminology,
that becomes "totalitarian" and "dictatorship".
But many countries, even Western countries,
have been governed this way for thousands of
years, and in the long history of the human race,
such countries, including China, have contri-
buted no less to the human civilization than the
Greeks. Should their achievement be ignored
or dismissed because it did not resulted from
a democratic system, which emphasizes the
rights of the individual over order, harmony and
good for the whole community? So we just
pay lip service to "diversity"?
I am particularly offended by your use of "China"
in your posts. The biased, brainwashing
Western media has been careful enough to use
"Communist Chinese government" in their
one-sided criticism. You did not even bother to
touch it up, placing yourself in direct opposition
to all the Chinese. I don't necessarily identify
with the Chinese government, but I am a
Chinese. That's why I cannot stand by.
This abnormal interest in Western countries in
Tibet is really strange and entertaining. Many
who defend the "freedom of Tibet" cannot even
tell where Tibet is on the map, not to mention
its history or current situation. If you want to
hear some voices different from the mainstream
Western media, here are the observations from
a Westerner in China:
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=6807...
fuck you mr lyons.
.....whoo-WAH!!! skuzza, SKUZZA!!! sp's, man, S - friggin' - P's
MAN!!!!
Would it be possible for us to delete some of our own replies in the thread?
Thanks,
Paul
Geez, what a moron.
I'M the only one who can talk to him like that.
Do you know how they're marketing enemas in NYC now? IS2G: Colon Hydrotherapy!!!
I don't recommend it unless you have a high fever.
Shhhh! The Croissants are doing their strip tease.
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A looper?
A looper. You know, a caddy, a looper...a jock.
So I tell them I'm a pro jock and who do you think they give me?
The Dalai Lama, himself. The 10th son of the Lama. With flowing robes, grace, bald, striking...
I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver He hauls off and whacks one. Big hitter, the Lama...long...into a 10 thousand foot crevace right at the base of this glacier!
Do you know what the Lama says?
"Gunga galunga. Gunga gunga da gunga."
So we finish the round and he's going to stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama! How about a little something, you know, for the effort?"
And he says, "There won't be any money...but when you die, on your deathbed...you will receive total consciousness."
So I've got that going for me...which is nice.
Call me. I wanna hear some of those voicemails. Those little robe-dudes are an inscrutable lot, aren't they?
L
.....whoo-WAH!!! skuzza, SKUZZA!!! sp's, man, S - friggin' - P's
MAN!!!!
what's next? the iraq death toll is up to 4000, maybe you should make fun of the soldiers who have been sent their to their death by this stupid country. or maybe post some pictures of dying children and poke fun at them? this site used to be hilarious; give it up before it keeps going downhill.
if you want a political blog to express your own opinions, create one, don't post the sh*t here.
Would it be possible for us to edit some of our own replies in the thread?
Thanks
And, Dalai Lama's shit and pee are worth a lot of money. Those stuff are collected in golden containers, then are mixed into some drugs, and sold at skyhigh prices.
Shit! Yep, shit. BUt it's fucking true. I didn't read it on April 1, or May 32.