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The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs: Hillary uses the N word

  • Jeff · 1 year ago
    I think that people miss the point of the article. It's not even that the facts may be true. It doesn't even matter if the facts are true. The article is more about the fact that big business are corporately taking a stance, and the big business has a very direct way to influence what a great many people think. Like more than the paltry 3 million member or one union or another union.
    I think we will be able to look back and say we read the article that got Obama elected. The watershed moment when content creators, such as the NYT, took sides and influenced what people actually were thinking about. It's kind of fun to be part of a little bit of history.
  • sentownbrothertojailforcoke · 1 year ago
    The race issue is just another distraction to take your eye off the real issues in this election. It is easy for reporters to talk about, and stirs up a great deal of emotion.
    But, we’re all color-blind and gender-blind here, aren’t we?

    The real issue is the lack of a meaningful energy policy, the $10 Trillion national debt, with $400 billion in annual interest, the loss of competitiveness, the dumbing down of our schools, the $45 grand per year tuition for our kids, and the highest taxes in the world. (Look it up, it’s not Sweden, it is the US).
    We pay Federal, State, County and City taxes. We pay gas tax, electricity tax, water tax, 10% of all airfares is taxed. Taxes cost the average taxpayer more than food, shelter, energy, and clothing combined. A fine legacy from the “greatest generation.”

    We may not like him, but Romney is the only one running who has tackled these issues successfully. Massachusetts was in a deep hole (tax and spend for decades) with no easy fixes. Are Hillary or Obama even talking about their solutions?

    Bill Clinton inherited a $150 billion per year peace dividend from defense cuts Bush I put in place. He also muscled the price of gas down to $0.86 per gallon. These two things put a tremendous amount of money back into our economy. Energy costs touch 40% of the elements that make up the GDP.

    For the price of this trillion-dollar war, we could have put a solar panel on every roof in America; we could have put real reforms into our education system.

    Bill Clinton’s welfare reforms took away a huge entitlement, mostly from the African Americans who supported him. He was the work kind of bait-and-switch politician. He bit the hand that elected him. Hillary keeps talking about her 30 years of public service, but in reality, she has only been elected once, as the carpetbag Senator from NY, and would have easily lost to JFK Jr., who conveniently (for her) died before filing his candidacy. He was a legitimate resident of NY. What has Hillary done for NY? She has spent her entire term campaigning for the Presidency. Constituent services? “The public be damned…”

    Bill Clinton was impeached, but not for a blowjob, for treason. He and Hillary accepted millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions from Macao, China, and elsewhere. He then repaid his new Chinese funders with the Navy base at Long Beach, Level 22 military secrets, and screwed over Taiwan, who we are sworn by treaty to defend. This was the page one story, until the blowjob, pushed it back to page 48. Hillary was deeply involved with this. It cost Al Gore the presidency. Bill Clinton’s foreign policy was a joke. I am not defending Bush II, because he has made the world hate us, for which we would all forgive him if we were paying less than $1.00 per gallon of fuel.

    So the American people are easily distracted, and almost want to be misled. The media can smell an easy story, and has not patience or backbone for the real truth. Voter ignorance is remarkable, and we are all complicit.

    We hold the power. But politicians like Bill and Hillary want you to feel that you must be protected by a government that holds your money, makes your decisions, and turns us all into “the little people.” Starve the beast. We need protection from our politicians, especially the corrupt, power hungry, and visionless idiots we seem to elect.

    It is all slight of hand, while they reach into your wallet to fleece you or your livelihood.
  • osisbs · 1 year ago
    Two rules of Republicans:
    1. Transfer wealth from the poor to the rich
    2. Focus all energies on topics such as race and abortion to distract the public from the fact that #1 is happening.
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    sentownbrothertojailforcoke, excellent points. You are spot on with every observation. The ONLY issue I take is with Romney, as someone who has lived in Boston under his "leadership", I strongly disagree that he will be good for our nation. I am at a loss for the current pool of candidates, I do not want another Clinton (and I strongly feel that Hillary is no different that the other politicians who are in the back pockets of big business. It is known that Hillary has received money from insurance and pharm companies, ironic after all her talk on universal health coverage), and I do not believe that Obama (as refreshing as his views are) has the experience necessary to carry his "change" through. I know that the Republicans would MASSACRE Obama, Clinton could hold her own and MIGHT win, but I do not want another Republican. I am a FISCAL conservative and do NOT believe that social policy should be dictated by our leaders, unless to PROTECT the citizens. Thus, the right wing's agenda with taking away rights to individuals that are protected under the US constitution is not different that having big business in the back pockets of politicians. It is a shame as I like Hillary's environmental policy, with climate change being a VERY important issue we NEED a leader who is not tied to big oil. However, I do not like what she proposes and I find her responses on the way in Iraq to be floppy at best. I don't know, I hope things get better, I truly do.
  • vaporland · 1 year ago
    Romney? Sure...
  • osisbs · 1 year ago
    Hillary will win the nomination with the help of Diebold Voting Systems, then she'll lose the election with the help of Diebold and she will not and cannot say a word. We'll have four years of Republican rule, the Euro will cost more than a gallon of gas, the debt will be doubled and Microsoft will be awarded a $450 bil bid to track draft dodgers who do not want to go to Iran. Then, finally, the Republican Party might go the way of the Nazis. Maybe. We can only hope.
  • yellowdoggranny · 1 year ago
    personally I don't think she's worth the .49 cents it would take to buy the bullet to knee cap her..
  • Flip · 1 year ago
    I HATE the bitch, but nergro was NOT a slur You ever heard of the United Negro College Fund, JO?
  • sentownbrothertojailforcoke · 1 year ago
    who da' cracker now?

    Hillary's past will come to haunt her in many ways. Both Clintons have used the African-American community at their whim, and never paid back any of their debts.

    I can't wait until she starts to claim that Obama has promised the Minister Farrakhan the Secretary of State cabinet post; Jesse Jackson the Department of Labor, Queen Latifa, Health and Human Services, Opera, Treasury; Whoppi, Dept of the Interior, etc.

    Hillary is still trying to tap into the deep racism she knows is there.
    It is shameful, and reveals her manipulative nature.

    She wants to take a meritocracy and paint it black in her own twisted, and divisive way.

    Still still thinks it is "her turn" and that anyone who get in her way, will get what they deserve. That is not justice or leadership.
  • mgabrys · 1 year ago
    oh it gets worse. How about the NAACP? "Colored People"? Holy CATS!
  • Hillary Clinton · 1 year ago
    Sorry, Fake Steve. You lose on this one. You've been Cubed. The most popular term used in the Midwest back in the day (1960s) was "colored." 'Negro' was only used in mixed company, sometimes in higher education.

    It wasn't a slur. It was the politically correct term at the time. Nobody used BLACK. African-American? Puhleeze. It just didn't happen. Most negroes back then couldn't find Africa on a map.
  • richardmnixon · 1 year ago
    Much as I hate to agree with this c-word, she's probably even understating the case here. I once used the word "negro" at a campaign stop in Macon, GA, in 1972, and they looked at me like I had just asked their daughters to screw Malcolm X. Haldeman got up after my speech and said I had meant to use the n-word, then passed out six-packs of Coors.

    My immediate predecessor, Saint Lyndon -- the mere mention of which started the latest race war -- used to pronounce "negro" as if the "e" was an "i". If you don't believe me, listen to his tapes. Or you can listen to LBJ's very own smoking gun tape.
  • TooCheapToBuyBooks · 1 year ago
    Damn. I see where Chelsea gets her good looks from. Not even Woz would hit that.
  • entropy · 1 year ago
    Well I probably wouldn't have in college either, but my standards were stupidly, and counter productively, high then. If I had my chance again though.....And maybe then I could say I once hooked up with the president of the USA!

    Actually it all comes down to what her legs look like. Come to think of it, I don't believe I have ever seen a pic of Hills in a skirt. Hmmm.
  • yet another steve · 1 year ago
    Oh you guys are so distracted by the politics that you are missing the point of this blog. FS loves to get commentards (and that's what many of you are) hot and bothered by making obvious mistakes. When the mistakes are geographical, the regular readers just sit back and wait for someone to get offended that a country has been placed on the wrong continent.

    In this case, you are missing the joke right in front of your face... now exactly what is the 'N' word?

    Any of you give any thought to the fact that you're arguing with... satire?
  • Chris Yeh · 1 year ago
    The Beast must be stopped! Here's my little contribution: Transformers "Destroy" and "Protect" movie posters, with Hillary as Megatron and Obama as Optimus Prime:

    http://chrisyeh.blogspot.com/2008/02/one-shall-...
  • peter · 1 year ago
    THe Times isnt so kind with Obama either.
    Today they accuse him of supporting the nuclear industry.
    They are going after every candidate with a fine-tooth comb
  • FSF · 1 year ago
    which is the job of the press - we tend to forget that in this celebretard culture!
  • Laughing Gnome · 1 year ago
    The Democrats that might oppose the GOP, and take away their...power?
  • sentownbrothertojailforcoke · 1 year ago
    Apple

    I am I the only one here using a Mac?

    What sweet irony...
  • Yeah · 1 year ago
    On the flipside Ann Coulter has now gone on record as saying she'd support Hillary Clinton over John McCain.

    Ok, yeah I know Ann's just flapping her gums trying to save Mitt's bacon and that she'll just backtrack faster than you can say Donald Rumsfeld if the election actually comes down to those two. But still you know dumb crap like that will come up again.
  • Pierpont Morgan · 1 year ago
    N-Word = Namaste
  • FBO · 1 year ago
    I try not to look at the past. I myself have been called a "Negro" plenty of times. Mostly from my own grandmother. It's was just common usage years ago. Much better than other words that could be used, and certainly it's not even used by the majority of blacks in this country anymore. Same with "colored."
    And both words wouldn't show someones racism. If anything, it would show their age.

    Something's happened in this country in the past 8 years. These are words. Don't pay attention to them. Now, if there was evidence that Hillary was portrayed in Mississippi Burning, then there would be a problem. We need to realize that words are not the same a actions.
    We need to change that, and I am the candidate to lead that change.

    Obama / Winfrey in '08

    - Barry
  • Jake Blues · 1 year ago
    Too Chicagoan for me, some of that Cook County politics and business gone national, not so sure about that.

    We know how that system works, and how City cops make that work, with slap sticks and fists.
  • Jake Blues · 1 year ago
    Forgot kick-backs, bribes, pay offs, and lobbyist for the local region.
  • FHC · 1 year ago
    My loyal supporters seem to be out in force today, FSJ. As for that no good Times editor, why, there is this wonderful park in the city. It's suitably large, and I understand some of it not very safe. May be he'll take a stroll there, and well, you get the idea. I heard that there was this thing called Cloverfield that hang around there.... a lot of possibilities
  • Kelly · 1 year ago
    Come on, I'm no Hillary fan, but this is race bating.

    From Wikipedia:
    "Negro is an archaic racial term referring to people who have skin that has high melanin content, referring to persons of African ethnic origin. Prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s, the appellation was accepted as a normal neutral formal term both by those of African descent as well as non-African blacks."
  • Bart Negro · 1 year ago
    Stop Race baiting!
    I'm half black half Hispanic (woohoo) and my mom worked for the United Negro College fund where she met my very black father. And yes - that was NEGRO on the organization's title. My dad is not very old but he has always used the word Negro to refer to causes otherwise known as "African-American" - a term he's less fond of since it implies we're not as American as just "Americans". He uses "blacks" when describing individuals - and usually Negroes for the members of a cause or organization. The point is that the word is not condescending. Is the context. I don't particularly think much of miss Clinton. Not because she's a woman, or Caucasian, but very much a product of the political machine. However I will say i don't find her use of the term racist or demeaning. I think those trying to make it appear so, are hoping for a race clash! I hope smart people will stop taking the bait.
  • RB · 1 year ago
    "way before the jump. "

    It's called the fold.
  • the unpopular guy · 1 year ago
    Negroe was appropriate and not condescending in my lifetime here in the USA. Further, the word is still employed in many places around the world without any negative connotation.

    from the Oxford Dictionary:
    "ORIGIN via Spanish and Portuguese from Latin niger, nigr- ‘black.’ "

    Anyone ever see Nigeria on the map?

    What I'd really like to know is if we can get to the point of seriously considering a black man or a woman for president, does it mean we can stop racial profiling in affirmative action and start helping people based on their socio-economic classifications?

    Can we stop having a "black history month"? or do we need a brown, white and yellow history month going forward?

    Should we stop having "miss black teen" pageants? how about job or educational advantages?

    Certainly some programs were necessary to kick start the shift from the old days / ways...but what is the end point?

    The success of Obama, or Powell, or Rice, or the new black CEOs, the lack of racial divide in music, relationships, etc.. mean that at least for the younger generations the only thing holding people back is their own choices.
  • S. Johnson · 1 year ago
    I hate to think that my wonderful country, the USA, could be ruled by those with 'outside interests'. Obama may be a great human being; however he is still a Negro. His beliefs include helping out his father's country (Africa): Is this a primary agenda if he is elected? Let me know your responses. I would vote for the GOP party before I could vote for him!
  • oakling · 1 year ago
    Aw, she's Hermione.

    Barry Goldwater is original sin? Come on - she could have worked with Helms.
  • Pete · 1 year ago
    Jesus Christ, the N word wasn't so bad then, and Clintons dawdling to intervene in Rwanda was not about race.

    Now it looks like Obama supporters are playing the race card, for no good reason. Which looks desperate, Machiavellian, and just, well, Clintonesque.

    Not cool Steve.

    Thought the Goldwater bit was fun.
  • FSF · 1 year ago
    1. The NYT officially endorsed Clinton as the democratic nominee several weeks ago: "As Democrats look ahead to the primaries in the biggest states on Feb. 5, The Times’s editorial board strongly recommends that they select Hillary Clinton as their nominee for the 2008 presidential election."
    2. The article is an attempt to impartially (journalists, unlike bloggers, and tech moguls strive to be impartial) to profile Clinton's evolution from the doting daughter of a republican racist father(very common in sixties midwest) to the woman and candidate she is now.
    3. This blog is a parody. Many of your replies (Flip, Sentownbrother..) expose your own issues with women and have nothing to do with either this blog or with Hillary Clinton
    4. You all would do well to stop gaming 24-7 and take a class in critical thinking.
  • vaporland · 1 year ago
    Touche!
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    FSF. AMEN.
  • Nick in MB · 1 year ago
    Wellesley? That's near Boston. I'm sure the word is acceptable even today.

    So she went to college in the greater Boston area? And she gets her photo taken wearing a Yankees cap?
    Ugh, I didn't like her for the Yankee cap to begin with. But that she went to school in Red Sox territory, and is wearing the cap of the enemy?!?!?! In the words of the great Rev. Al, I'm outraged!!!!! Although I'm sure he would be for different reasons.
  • Fonzy's Protest · 1 year ago
    The New York Times in that linked story quoted:

    “I do have a broader definition,” Mrs. Clinton said in an interview. “Civil rights are what each of us as human beings are entitled to in relationship to our society. But it really is, at core, about the respect and dignity of each human being.”. . .

    and, " "By the time Mrs. Clinton moved to Arkansas in 1974, she had acquired a number of African-American friends and colleagues. She also had difficulty accepting what she saw as remnants of the “Old South.”"

    It is a mixed pool of a story, with her personal experiences strengthened her character of diversity. Sounds just right to understand all the demographics of this country. What is the problem?

    And this part: "She recalled her father’s driving her through rough parts of Chicago. “We’d go by skid row, which is what it was called in those days,” Mrs. Clinton said, “and we’d see some fellow leaning against a lamp post, and my father would start in on one of his usual lectures.”. . .
    Anyone see the movie Candyman? These Chicago Housing projects are scary-Cabrini Green?. If one is white passing through these areas- your pretty much mugged and dead. Chicago's finest(cops) avoid these areas if necessary.

    Thanks NY Times. Seems like we have a candidate with diverse experience, empathy, strength, and experience.

    Hillary and Obama certainly understand Chicagoland/NW Chicagland much better than the NY Times would, understanding its wealthy areas of Park Ridge, IL, and its (former) overfilled housing projects, to its workng class city and suburaban areas as well-Just Like Real America, along with its small villages outlying.
    Experience(Hillary) always overtakes paid whoreism and buyouts, which I guess is what our American Business model is following today with its current path.
    And was not the whole "fake shutdown drama" protested as well, interesting that this post endorses "shutting down" someone's political agenda through this post and the "New York Times".

    Lets let America decide. Without tossing 40 year old sludge, preety sleezy indeed.
  • lastangelman · 1 year ago
    1.)Irrelevant crap, this "Negro" bullshit.
    2.)She was a closet Young Republican. She only became an RFK, then McCarthy Democrat to hang with "cool" kids. Marks her an opportunist.
    3.)Hills will split both the Dems and GOP and still take the White House. Don't be surprised if it becomes a four way race - Hills, Obama, Bloomberg and some Republican (Mitt the Shit or Elmer Fudd or Suck-A-Cee-Minus).
  • sentownbrothertojailforcoke · 1 year ago
    Can we change the constitution and get Carla Bruni to run?
  • Matt · 1 year ago
    I'm not a Hillary fan, but she wrote this almost 40 years ago so I give her a pass. I'm more ticked at the NYT's for race baiting for $$$.
  • G4Wheels · 1 year ago
    It's funny how people who say they want to look ahead are more apt to bring up the past.

    Hope Obama gets trounced Tuesday.
  • dansucks · 1 year ago
    Dan, stick to tech. You're jumping the shark with politics.
  • Jim H · 1 year ago
    By the way, taking the temperature from you and some of your posters, you can curl yourself up into an hysterical lump over a perceived (but imaginary) racial smear, but routinely use vile sexist language to describe a very honorable candidate for the presidency. Classy, Forbes editor. How's that flat tax thing working for ya?
  • rayray · 1 year ago
    Actually, thanks for the link, it was a really interesting article. I don't know if your crazed anti-Hillary bromides are just part of the cute persona you've created as FSJ. If they're not, your entry badly mischaracterizes the NYT article.

    The article talks about HRC's journey from sheltered Goldwater girl to sympathy with the Civil Rights movement & ultimately seeing that movement within the broader context of human rights. It doesn't at all read like the character assassination you suggest it is.

    Also, your 1960s knowledge is pretty bad, for a person of your age. Listen to some of King's speeches, there are plenty on YouTube--he used the term 'negro' up until 1968. Ultimately I think your entry was kind of pointlessly shrill & completely wrong on the facts.

    Look, I think this is a fun blog when you're talking about the tech industry. But when you talk politics, or indeed recent history outside of the tech field, you just sound ignorant.
  • Jesse · 1 year ago
    Ummm... I don't think is was too unnormal at the time, but maybe I am just saying that because in the back of my mind I know that I will vote for Hillary... Who knows... See my blog! recklessranting.blogspot.com
  • Jon · 1 year ago
    Actually, FSJ, 'Negro' was not a disrespectful term at the time ... Regarding all of your political posts of late, you're a bit out of your league - best stick to your Apple/techie schtick.
  • franky · 1 year ago
    This blog once was fun. Then politics came.
  • Nick in MB · 1 year ago
    It's topical.
  • Jim H · 1 year ago
    Oh, you're so full of crap. "Negroes" were who Lyndon Johnson got the Civil Rights act passed for, and the Voting Rights Act, too. The word of choice didn't become "black" until the later '60s, with the growth of Black Power thinking, particularly after Martin's Death. Then "African-American" was a gentrification of that. Get a clue, you stupid Forbes editor.
  • Alan · 1 year ago
    Dude, unless you can produce some quotes that show RSJ feels the same way, why don't you just shut the fuck up about campaign politics. It's great when you skewer politicians just like you do other leaders. It's another thing entirely when you get all polarized and blatantly take sides.
  • Mark · 1 year ago
    Alan -

    Get a life. If what he writes offends you, don't read it!

    FSJ, ignore frigtards like this and keep writing whatever you feel appropriate. It's your blog.
  • playitcool · 1 year ago
    Dude, welcome to America?
  • Janus · 1 year ago
    It would be if Hillary weren't so repulsive and power-hungry and lacking in any remotely positive human quality.

    Don't stop the music, FSJ!
  • vaporland · 1 year ago
    you missed Randy Newman at the keynote in SFO?
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    I find it funny that people are pigeonholing Hillary with the same characteristics of our current "leader", G W Bush. I love how everyone is giving him a pass and crucifying Hillary. I guess the saying is true, the media has to have a devil to sell headlines, and she is the "it" girl of the moment. Sad.
  • bongstradamus · 1 year ago
    well, Bush is a lame duck, what point would impeaching, crucifying, dosey-doing or anything really do at this point? the damage is done. Hell just hide behind executive privilege until the next president pardons or prosecutes.

    The gang up on Hillary is because people are afraid of her as President and its much easier (and palatable) to stop her in the primary then to allow her to steamroll to the general as the DNC candidate and ultimately recreate another 51-49 split in America. Either for McCain or her. The ultimate win is divisive. Obama's win in a general would be a mandate for substantive, bi-partisan change. A new direction, and momentum going into the transition.

    Since punking Hillary now would by proxy enable Obama to ascend as the DNC candidate, this is why these peices are going out. In case you didnt realize, nearly half the country has their primary vote tomorrow. The timing of the piece is due to that.
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    The other problem with giving Bush a pass is in essence stating any one can abuse the law, take away the civil liberties of its citizens, start contested wars while profiting off them, and it sets up the next President for having immunity and abuse as commander-in-chief. The people in power MUST be held accountable for their actions. Further, the Clintons have been scrutinized and criticized by the media and the right wing as far back as '92, everything from White Water to Ken Starr's investigation into Bill Clinton sex life (which has NO impact on his presidency. If the personal sex lives of our president is that prudent than no one would be fit to govern). It's a complete bias. I am so tired of people hating Hillary for no reason. The Bush's are just as fowl if not more so than the Clintons, at least Bill's lie about a blow job hasn't cost countless lives and trillions of dollars, putting the middle class out to pasture and the economy into a tailspin. It's sick. Yet Hillary is the devil. Pfft.

    (NOTE: I am not a supporter of Hillary, but I do not like the media's bias towards her, it's unjust).
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    Oh, and I love how they crucify her for being a "politician". "She's too calculated", "untrustworthy". Um, hello! What politician ISN'T? The Bush administration and Karl Rove are WORSE. Something tells me if she was a woman it would be a different story.
  • Jimbob · 1 year ago
    Agree One-Hundred-percent.
    I can understand how the "big-swinging" dicks in power working for large multinational corporations controlling its citizens with fear would be intimidated by and make a target of her and Bill with the press and Blogs. Even Obama may be next.
    The many "Boomers and PreBoomer-Silent Generation types" still have not gotten their thinking beyond the 1970's and disco.
    Ultimate glass ceiling, with Boomers and Fox News manipulating the media to the "Great White Man" agenda, just like school in the 1970's.
  • bongstradamus · 1 year ago
    if Hillary wasnt a woman and wasnt the former first lady than shed have been torpedoed long long ago. its because they still curry favors and maintained their connections that shes avoided much of her sullied past with fundraisers. Even today reports surfaced about $820k directly donated by lobbyists. Shes the big money candidate and every election cycle theres always some story about some dirty fundraiser or some fishy paperwork or someone suing someone.

    She had the balls to attack Obama's ties to Tony Rezko, one of the people shes taken money from in the past and had photos with, and make it sound like shed never stoop so low as to "accept money from a Chicago slum-lord" yet she did plenty of times before. What is she really mad about there? That this guy might be abusing poor people in Chicago or that Obama got his financial support this time and she didn't? You never know with Hillary.

    Ann Coulter says shes more conservative than John McCain and that if it was between Clinton and McCain shed vote Clinton. This is Ann "Crackhead" Coulter we're talking about. She makes Rush Limbaugh look like a Marxist.

    And why impeach now? All that does is make people angry. Remember how angry you were when they impeached Clinton? What does that solve right now, leading up to an election when Democrats have finally gotten a majority? Nothing, it looks like bloodlusted revenge and it reflects poorly on the nation to just kind of keep repeating this same process of sticking the other guys back once you re-establish power. Thats the kind of thing we're trying to get above. Theres this guy, Obama, maybe you've heard of him...

    Let a new leader with a new vision get into the White House, then let him put things in motion that will produce a fair and just result within the law, as it was intended.
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    I agree, Hillary isn't exactly a model politician, but I find this all amusing as the Bush administration has more ties to big business and oil than Hillary to any major organization, yet no one in the press has even covered Bush's corruption. How does this administration get such a HUGE pass? Oh, I forgot, the media is owned by Rupert Murdoch and Faux News. Talk about bias. Yes, Hillary isn't something to write home to Mom about, I just don't like how the press has glossed over Bush and Company and demonized Hillary. Hell, Faux News was so desperate they even covered the fact that Obama used to smoke cigarettes, it was his "dirty little secret" according to Faux. This is what this country had come to, mindless sheeple hating everything that is dictated to them through the media. This is why I take issue to the mindless hate of Hillary. You raised good points, but when the normal citizen is asked why they hate Hillary so much, their only response seems to be "Cause I just do". Talk about not thinking.
  • JimBob · 1 year ago
    You raise interesting points.
    I like Obama, and what he is trying to stand for.
    I personally don't think he is ready to stand as President and take on other branches of Government-I think Hillary is.
    From what I understand, DC is filled with Lobbyist isn't it?
    Interesting that Hillary gets flamed for Lobbyist when this is business as usual.
    You do make strong, valid points, though.
    We'll see soon.